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February 2017

Re: MT reviews policy

I am wondering whether the modern trend towards Fake News and Alternative Facts is responsible for the string of CDs which have ended up in my bin recently.  The word 'Traditions' in the name of this magazine is one, I would have thought, that was fairly well-known in the Anglophone world.  Admittedly, there are those who will argue - endlessly - as to its exact meaning, but songs and tunes composed by the performers would, I imagine, be ruled out as traditional by most reasonably intelligent and educated persons.

It seems not; perhaps the senders of these CDs believe that their products being reviewed in Musical Traditions magazine will magically transform them into traditional pieces, learned orally from previous generations.  I'm sorry to have to inform them that such Alternative Facts find no home amongst these pages.  I truly lament the quantity of plastic, card and paper that end up in the bin ... to pass into the Stroud charity shops' black hole.  I know only too well how minutely small is the market for CDs these days, and I hate to think of the waste of money and scarce resources involved.

And I do try to warn record producers of the magazine's attitude to such things; the MT policy is explained quite specifically in the - you guessed it - Policy page.  And if that were not enough, a brief glance through the CDs that do get reviewed here ought to make it clear what sort of CDs we actually deal with.  Why on earth do record producers keep sending me stuff that they really ought to know will never be reviewed here?

And I am talking about 'record producers' here, not record companies.  I once had a long and complicated explanation as to how it was cheaper for record companies to send out review copies to everyone on their list of possible reviewers, than to take the trouble to select the ones that were actually likely to review the CD concerned.  But I would have thought that individual performers or groups publishing their own product would have found it worthwhile to do a little bit of sorting.  It seems not; on checking, I find that the last seven 'inappropriate for MT' CDs I've received have all been from individual performers or groups.

The last of these, which has prompted this little rant, was from an English 'celidh band' - so no excuse for not knowing what MT is about.  Now, I know what a 'celidh band' is - as opposed to a simple 'dance band', because I had a discussion about it with the Sidmouth Festival organisers a while ago, when I was trying to get a 'dance' gig for my band Phoenix which, it appears, is a 'celidh band' despite having no drum'n'bass.  But that's rather beside the point.  The 'celidh band' in discussion sent me a CD for review - I assume it was for review, although the package contained only the CD and a press release - containing 10 tracks, every one of which was self-composed by members of the band.  Not only that, but the music is not played in anything remotely like a style I can recognise as being traditional.  Indeed, there are no tunes at all - just a series of rifs based on a very simple chord sequence, which is then repeated with slight variations and underlying digital sequencing.  Personally, I found nothing to like about it at all ... but that's not the point.  The point is that it has absolutely nothing to do with traditional music - or with Musical Traditions!

Rod Stradling - 15.2.17


I am aware that some people (particularly Katy Spicer, the Society's Chief Executive) feel that I have been a little harsh in my criticisms of the EFDSS (see below).  To them I would simply say "compare and contrast!"  The Irish Traditional Music Archive's monthly update tells me that, since 2008 when it started uploading resources, ITMA has made 1,222 books; 1,928 images; 2,687 sound recordings; 384 videos: 6,155 interactive musical scores; 5 micro-sites and 7 'Discover' exhibitions freely available online.

If the EFDSS had done one tenth of this work, or even shown one hundredth of this interest in traditional music and song, I would still be a member.


MT's two Catalogue Samplers

Those of you whose memories extend that far back may recall that MT Records published two Sampler CDs - the first in 2002, updated in 2005, and the second in 2012, priced at £10 each.  The intention was that these full and inexpensive CDs might find a wider audience than any of the individual publications had, and might open a few eyes to the riches to be found within MT's catalogue.

The selections were nothing more than my then current favourite tracks, or things that readers might never have heard before; one from each CD - and I made no attempt to be representative of any particular singer's repertoire or style.  All of the texts were drawn from the booklets accompanying the CDs, including song/tune notes suitably edited for these publications.

They both had very good reviews - Shirley Collins wrote, of the first one:

... while Ian Anderson went even further about the second: And many of the purchasers were equally enthusiastic.  Sadly though, they never sold in any great numbers, and I eventually decided stop making them, and to put the tracks from both CDs - and all the others, too - online in the MT Sampler page, and forego all the work involved in producing a third one later this year.

However, since they were no longer available, they didn't appear on the MT Downloads page, which meant that those who want downloads of them would have the unenviable task of playing, and simultaneously recording them from the Sampler page - in real time!  Not a job I would like, nor the couple of hours it would take to do it.  So I've just made Downloads of them, and expanded their content to include all the tracks that could have gone on them were it not for the 80 minute limit of a single CD.

They look like this, and can now be found as the last two items at the bottom of the Downloads page.


Help again, please

Phil Heath-Coleman is in need of a copy of the Folktracks cassette 053, which was devoted to members of the Wood Family (Welsh Romany musicians) and Nansi Richards.  Does anyone have a copy they would be prepared to loan, or send as MP3 downloads?  Please let me know if you do.



One of my Editorial tasks at this time of the year is to update the 'About MT' pages - particularly the Statistics section.  As I had mentioned in my 'End of Year' editorial, things had been sadly quiet on the Magazine front: only 2 new Articles, 23 Reviews, 2 Enthusiasms, 7 News items and 11 Letters had been added in 2016.  By past standards, this was a very meagre set of additions.  So, come on you people, I know we can't do much about record companies not producing the CDs - or not sending them to us for review - but how about some new Articles or Enthusiasms, Letters to the Editor, News items?  Time to do something!  And, if all that wasn't bad enough, I've just checked the wesite statistics, and discovered that the magazine website had only around 360,000 visitors in 2016 - compared to one million in 2015.

So, along with the Labour Party, Jo Cox, Brexit, Trump, etc, etc, 2016 has been a pretty shity year.  Looking forward, at least I have three new CDs already in preparation for 2017 release - which is a good deal more than is usually the case in January!  Though how many copies will be bought is anybody's guess; the last two CDs we've produced have sold fewer than 30 copies each.  Even sales of Downloads, which started well when they were first made available last year, have slowly diminished in number.  Sales in the 9 months of 2015/16 were three times greater than in the 9 months of this present financial year.

I had hoped - foolishly - that having a Facebook page might enable me to spread the word about all the new things I've implimented on the Magazine and the Records websites.  The sad reality seems to be that far more people are interested in my own boring life than in anything to do with traditional music and song!

If anyone is able to offer any suggestions for improving this situation, I'd be extremely pleased to hear from you.


2015 CDs now available as downloads

It's Happy New Year time - and, as promised, the three CDs and one CD-ROM we produced in 2015 are now available as downloads - they're the last four items on the page.  For those of you who may be new to this service, each Download comprises an HTML file of the complete booklet, within which are clickable links to all the songs as MP3 files.

Each Download comprises a ZIP file containing one or more HTML files, a 'sound' folder and a 'graphics' folder.  They can be un-ZIP-ed into a single destination (folder) on your device, and run from there.  Alternately (if you buy more than one download) you could create a single folder called (for example) 'MT Downloads', containing both a 'sound' folder and a 'graphics' folder, and then put all the HTML files into that, all the .mp3 files into the 'sound' folder and all the .jpg/.png/.gif files into the 'graphics' folder.  All files have individual names, so no problems should occur, no matter how many downloads you eventually buy.  Needless to say, all the MP3 sound files could also be copied to any other device you might wish to use.

Since downloads require no booklet production, case covers, CDs, DVD cases or postage, they sell for a far lower price.  Compared to £10, £12, £16 and £20 for the 'normal' publications, the downloads of single CDs are £1.00 or £2.00, double CDs are £4.00, and 3-CD Sets are £6.00.  The facility exists to pay more than these low prices, if you'd like to!

They can be found, along with ALL the previous MT Records' CD publications, on the MT Records' Download page.


Season's Greetings and Review of 2016

Happy Christmas!It is 20 years to the day since the magazine first appeared in this form - so Happy Birthday to us ... and Happy Christmas to you!  The About MT page gives you all the history of the magazine in its paper form, and of its transplantation into this virtual one if you'd like to have a look, so I won't go on about it here.  Suffice it to say that I never imagined that it would last for two decades ... and nor did many of you, I'm sure!  That was the glorious past which, as we know, is another country - but, in this present country I'm sorry to say that the future doesn't look at all rosy.

We haven't published many CDs this year (running out of sources of unpublished recordings of traditional performers?) but we have done a couple by revivalists!  A little gem is Edward the Second and the Red Hot Polkas: The Early Recordings 1985-86 (MTCD405).  This contains all 22 tracks from 3 cassettes we recorded back in the day when EII was still a dance band.  It plays for 81 minutes, and costs just £10.00.  Not bad for "the best little English dance band on the planet" as someone called it back then.

The other release was your Editor's present dance band, Phoenix, with All Fired Up (FBR 005), published on our sister label, Firebird Records.  It has 15 tracks, runs for 58 minutes, and also costs just £10.00.  There are 43 more less-than-well-known tunes, forged into 15 new dance sets by several years of playing for dancing at numerous clubs and festivals.  So, another good dance band record.

A couple of new MT Records' CDs are currently in preparation:

Finally on the records front, I'm truly proud to tell you that our 2-CD Set, Sam Larner: Cruising Round Yarmouth (MTCD369-0) has won the Folklore Society Non-Print Media Award for 2014 - 2016.  You may remember that MT's Cecilia Costello : "Old Fashioned Songs" also won this award in 2012 - 2014.  I was very pleased about that, but I must admit that I'm finding it rather difficult to comprehend that we've actually done it again!  However, having just checked up, it seems that this award resulted in just 20 further Cecilia Costello sales in the subsequent two years!  Obviously the Folklore Society thinks we're making good records - if only people would buy the bloody things!  There really is hardly any audience out there for real traditional singing.

In addition to simply publishing CDs, I have been at pains to try to make them accessible to a wider audience by making some modifications to the MT Records website to suit people who primarily use Smartphones.  I thought it would be a fairly simple job - just re-assemble the basic parts into a narrow screen format ... but things are never simple, are they?  I soon realised that, to work with Smartphones, the site needed to be 'responsive' - able to adapt automatically to the size of the particular device in use, and even to handle whether it was in portrait or landscape mode.  No one I asked had any idea how to do this!  Eventually research pointed me to the W3.CSS page, and after a great deal of experimenting with their examples, I seem to have cracked it.

Then a friend made the sensible suggestion that, since most Smartphone users will want a download rather than a 'real' CD, I should include a link to the Downloads page.  Easier said than done, because the Downloads pages were not 'responsive'.  Many more days' work ensued ... but now they are.  No more sensible suggestions for at least 6 months, please!  Actually, I'm pleased that I had to do all this stuff because the 'Shipping Calculator' pages I had to create for the new 'mobile-friendly' website have now been added to all the normal website entries, rather than just the most recent ones.  This means that every purchase of a CD will now be charged the appropriate postage cost - which will be cheaper for UK purchasers, a little more expensive for European ones, and rather more for 'Rest of World' ones.

Sadly, the Magazine has not been doing too well either.  We published our 303rd Article in October last year, but have had only 2 new ones in the 14 months ones since then.  Some 23 new Reviews have been added in 2016, along with just 2 Enthusiasms, 7 News items and 11 Letters.  By past standards, this is a very meagre set of additions.  To put it in perspective, the first year for which I can find reliable numbers, 2004, was described in my Christmas message as: 'A fairly quiet year, all told ... there have been about 70 Reviews and 16 new Articles added to the site this year - around two thirds of the normal number'.  In addition, there were also 66 News Items, 3 Enthusiasms, and 19 Letters in 2004.  See what I mean?

So, 20 years since the magazine first appeared in this form, I'd like to be able to end as I usually do - but the Brexit vote has fucked continued EU membership, so a reasonably active 2017 with a real (rather than notional) financial recovery seems increasingly unlikely, and the almost unbelievable Trump victory in the USA has made the world a far more dangerous place, if that were possible.  It will also have a profound impact in Europe, empowering and strengthening the far right and anti-immigrant politics both here and abroad.  Marine Le Pen will feel that she could win the French Presidency next May, and recent events in Holland further illustrate the situation.  Britain is experiencing a rise in racism and the far right feels confident and bullish.  These are deeply troubling times; no wonder people are drawing parallels to the 1930s - is there a corelation between 'Mexicans and Muslims' and 'Gypsies and Jews'?

At least Jeremy Corbyn continues to lead the People's Party - but for how much longer?  Sorry to be so gloomy but, in the face of all that lot, wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year seems childishly naïve.


EFDSS - time for decision

Back in April I asked "Is the EFDSS Folk Music Journal worth £47 a year?"  Derek Schofield pointed out that it's possible to buy the Journal on its own anyway, and that you also get public liability protection for your (now) £48.  But since no one much wants a dance band without drum'n'bass these days, I don't think this is too much of a benefit to me.  I decided that I'd wait 'til my membership expired on 1st January 2017 and make the decision then.  Yesterday I got the letter telling me that my membership is due for renewal - so it's decision time.

Having spent some time today browsing the Society's website I failed to find much (anything!) about traditional music or song.  Indeed, the only welcome news was that another new edition of Frank Purslow's fine books has been published ... this was news to me, since neither had been sent to MT for review.  I'm not sure if that was disappointing or to be expected!  Almost all the upcoming events at C# House appear to be by performers who compose some or all of their own songs and, since I don't read music, their much vaunted The Full English project isn't of a great deal of use to me.  Of the very few books and CDs they now offer, I already have all those dealing with traditional music or song.  And lastly, the VWML website links to the Folk Music Journal produce a '404 Page not found' response.  So it does look as if it's time to go ... I've now cancelled my membership of the EFDSS.


MT's Sam Larner CDs win The Folklore Society Non-Print Media Award 2014 - 2016

And I'm truly proud to tell you that our 2-CD Set, Sam Larner: Cruising Round Yarmouth (MTCD369-0) has come first of a short-list of entries.  The Award will be presented during the FLS's lecture and prize-giving event tonight at The Warburg Institute, London.

I would like to publicly thank, first and foremost, Peggy Seeger for making available the recordings she and Ewan MacColl made of Sam Larner in the 1958 to 1960 period.  Without Peggy's willing assistance, these CDs would never have been published.  This is not the first time Peggy has been of enormous assistance to MT Records - all the recordings on the CD-ROM Travellers' Songs from England and Scotland, and all those on the CDs Caroline Hughes: Sheep-Crook and Black Dog (MTCD365-6), several of the recordings on George Dunn: Chainmaker (MTCD317-8) and all those on Joe Heaney: the road from Connemara (TSCD518D), and the whole Joe Heaney interview which made up much of the MT057 article, were also kindly made available by her.

Secondly, Chris Holderness has my heartfelt thanks for his superb account of Sam Larner's life and times, for detailed assistance with song transcriptions, for most of the photos, and lots of help and advice.  I must also thank Janet Topp Fargion and Andrea Zarza at the National Sound Archive at the British Library, who have been extremely helpful with this project.  The recordings we used were mastered from digital copies made at the British Library where the archival recordings are housed as part of the Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger Collection.

Thanks also to: Jackie Page, of the present generation of the Larner family, John Halliday - for more of the photos, Martin Carthy - for his account of his encounter with Sam Larner.  Danny Stradling and Steve Roud - for proof reading, assistance and information.  Without all of them, these CDs would never have existed ... and it goes without saying that without the assistance of countless other collaborators over the years, none of our 111 CD and CD-ROM publications would have ever been possible.

You may remember that MT's 2-CD Set, Cecilia Costello : "Old Fashioned Songs" (MTCD363-4) also won the 2012 - 2014 Folklore Society Non-Print Media Award.  I was very pleased about that, but I must admit that I'm finding it rather difficult to comprehend that we've actually done it again!


A new Keith Summers article!

Whilst scrolling through some of my word processor files today, I noticed one called 'English Country Music'.  Intrigued, I opened it.  And up popped a longish piece on that very subject - by our original Editor, Keith Summers!  The file was dated 17th August, 2004.  Regular readers will remember that Keith died in March 2004 so, clearly, it was written well before that, but I have no idea exactly when it originated, but August 2004 was the date I created it on my computer.

I can only suppose that the months of hectic work involved in getting The Hardy Sons of Dan (MTCD329-0) ready for publication before Keith died caused this article to slip through the cracks, and never to appear in the MT magazine's Articles page.  A great shame, as it's an excellent piece, showing once again Keith's incisive brain-power and breadth of knowledge.

So, better late than never, it is now published as our Article MT306.

Latest: A letter from Matt Milton (see Recent Letters) has now convinced me that Keith clearly wrote this piece much earlier; probably in the late-Seventies or early-Eighties ... but I still have no idea why it was never published in MT. - Ed.


New mobile-friendly MT Records website

Finally, some exciting news ... well, I think so!  The MT Records mobile-friendly website is now 'responsive'.  After much research and fiddling about, I think I've cracked it!!!  It should now automatically re-size to whatever your screen size is, even to whether you're in portrait or landscape position.  You can find it here.

Please email me to say how clever I've been - as someone who's never even used Style Sheets before!


The new slimmed-down 'mobile-friendly' Records website (below) is now finished, and connected to the magazine and the MT Records website Home Page.  It has been designed for a small screen, and its Home Page is 'responsive', though the rest of the site isn't as it seems to display satisfactorily as it is.  If you'd like to try it out you can do so here, but drag your browser's window narrow to pretend it's a Smartphone.

And - if all this modernisation were not enough - Musical Traditions Records now has a Facebook presence!


Shipping Calculator

The 'Shipping Calculator' pages I've had to create for the new 'mobile-friendly' Records website have now been added to all the normal website entries, rather than just the most recent ones.  This means that every purchase of a CD will now be charged the appropriate postage cost - which will be cheaper for UK purchasers, a little more expensive for European ones, and rather more for 'Rest of World' ones.


New mobile-friendly MT Records website

Hidden away as I am, in my little Cotswold valley, it wouldn't surprise me if you thought I was out of touch with the ways of the wider world.  Slightly behind the times I may be, but I do eventually get to know what's going on - and even react to some of the changes.  An example is the recent implementation of MT Records' Downloads page - now these young people who don't even remember what a CD is can get access to the wealth of the Catalogue straight to their devices of choice without having to bother with paper and bits of plastic.  All well and good - although it did take an awful lot of time and effort.  But now an associated problem needs to be addressed - making all the riches of MT's productions available to those who only use Tablets and Smartphones to interact with the world.

Now, before you mention it, I have realised that very little of the MT Magazine would be suitable for use on a Smartphone - imagine trying to read one of our 10-page reviews or articles on a 5" screen!  However, I think it's possible to make a pared-down mobile friendly version of the MT Records website suitable for use on a phone ... and I've started working on it.

Above are a some representative screen-shots - the Home page on the left, the start of the 'Recent Releases' page in the middle, and the Shipping Calculator page on the right.  I've been using these latter pages for all the newer CD releases, but will be doing them now for everything ... it makes postage costs fair to all purchasers, wherever they live.

And I do realise that, if you're reading this, you're probably doing it on a PC/MAC or a Tablet, not a Smartphone - but I do like to keep you up to date with what's developing in MT Land.  You could even pass the info on to any interested friends who use mobiles more or less exclusively - I don't know how to contact them otherwise.

I should point out that this new mobile-friendly website is not operational yet; I'll let you know, here, when it is.  As usual, any comments - positive or negative - will be gratefully received.


Harry Lee recordings - help, please!

Working with Phil Heath-Coleman, MT Records have produced two very good CDs of English fiddlers, Stephen Baldwin and Fred 'Pip' Whiting, over the past ten years.  Phil is now working on a third - on English Gypsy musicians.  One of these will be the fiddler, Harry Lee.  We have 15 recordings of him, ostensibly recorded by Ken Stubbs, one of which was released on Topic's Boscastle Breakdown LP.

I wrote 'ostensibly' because several people 'in the know' believe that at least some recordings were made by Paul Carter, for Topic.  My problem is that the recordings I have are of absolutely dreadful technical quality - they sound like a 20th generation cassette copy, and sound restoration will do nothing useful to them.  We need to get to some of the near-original recordings.

Phil and I have been doing a good deal of research on this.  The result appears to be that there certainly exists a set of 15 Harry Lee recordings made by Paul Carter.  Whether a Ken Stubbs set also exists is uncertain.

So, regarding the Paul Carter set: the one thing that puzzles me is that the Boscastle Breakdown recordings are just so much better than the ones we have access to.  I know that Topic had access to far better noise-reduction equipment than I do, but I can't believe that the recordings I have could possibly have been improved to that degree.  Accordingly, they must have been taken from the Paul Carter set, in its original form, and then cleaned up for commercial release.

Bearing that in mind, someone must have the same recordings we have, but in a much earlier version (ie. before they'd been copied from cassette to cassette too many times, resulting in the dreadful sound quality we have access to).  So it's possible that someone reading this Editorial may have the same recordings we have - but on an earlier (thus technically better) cassette than we do.  If this is you - please get in touch!


Google Search tip / Magazine Search facility

For several days, I have been hunting for a quote I knew I'd used somewhere in the Magazine a fairly long time ago.  It was a quote from an Irish writer called Proinsias (the Irish form of Francis) but I couldn't remember his surname.  I tried the Magazine's Search facility, but that produced no results at all - which was a bit worrying.

Eventually, while searching Google, I either invented or discovered that entering "www.mustrad.org.uk Proinsias" (without the quotes) got me all the Irish Franks in the magazine!  Since I'd never heard of, or seen reference to this form of Google search, I thought I'd share it with you.  It could be incredibly useful in the future for all kinds of hunts.

That problem sorted, I turned to considering of the failure of the Magazine's Search facility.  I implemented the current system some years ago, and it seemed to be working satisfactorily.  However, updating it proved to be both a time-consuming and an extremely tricky business.  So much so that I have to admit to not doing it half as often as I should, considering how frequently the Magazine is updated.  The What's New page helps a bit for regular readers - but it doesn't replace a decent search facility.

I have now replaced the previous search facility with a 'Freefind' one, as you will see top/right on our Home page.  It seems to do the job admirably.


New CD from the Phoenix Dance Band

Ten years after their first CD - after the fire - your Editor's present band, Phoenix, return with All Fired Up, released on our sister label, Firebird Records FBR 005.  It has 15 tracks, runs for 58 minutes, and costs just £10.00.  Now available on the MT Records' website.

There are 43 more less-than-well-known tunes, forged into 15 new dance sets by several years of playing for dancing at numerous clubs and festivals.  We've found it great fun getting it all together and, with Sidmouth, Haddenham, Bath and Oxfolk Ceilidhs lined up in the diary, we're All Fired Up about the future!


Is the EFDSS Folk Music Journal worth £47 a year?

There was a time, many long years ago - well, 1999 if we're going to be picky - when I re-joined the EFDSS after having resigned my membership back in the late '60s, because it didn't seem that the Society had any of my then interests very far up its agenda.  My reason for re-joining was the ludicrously naïve belief that - with their publication of several CDs of traditional music, not to mention the Bismarck's Upstream CD - the Society had begun to show some interest in the sort of stuff I was interested in.  It's taken a while - 16 years - for me to realise just how ludicrous and naïve my decision was!

It is, of course, the nature of societies that they cater to the interests of their members.  In the '60s, these were aging dancers, today it's young 'folkies' ... and neither group has the faintest interest in traditional music or song or, more importantly, in their traditional performers.  Today I received the latest edition of the EDS magazine - the first since Derek Schofield relinquished his editorship.  (I should add here that my decision to re-join the EFDSS was based in no small part upon the excellent work that Derek had done and was continuing to do within the Society.)

I found almost nothing within the EDS' pages relating in any real way to the oral or vernacular traditions.  There's a photo of village fiddler Johnny Hopkins - but nothing about him in the article it is supposed to illustrate, a short article on 'fluffy' morris which tells us almost nothing about it, and none of the reviews are of traditional music CDs.  So I'm beginning to wonder if the annual copy of the Journal is worth £47 a year.

I also wondered how many traditional performers had ever been recipients of the EFDSS Gold Badge award.  Well, it's a startling seven people: Harry Cox, Bob Copper, Bob Cann, Sam Sherry, Walter Pardon, Fred Jordan, and Francis Shergold, out of a total of 165 recipients!  And the list doesn't include William Kimber, you may have noticed!

I wrote the above, in hot blood - about six weeks ago, but thought I should let it rest for a while before publishing it, in case I had second thoughts.  I have now decided that, as I have some ten more months of paid for membership left, I'll wait 'til that expires in January 2017 and make the decision then.  Maybe the Society will have done something I consider more interesting and worthwhile by then.

I must correct my comments about Gold Badge recipients - poor eyesight?  Derek Schofield wrote to say:

Your list of Gold badge recipients isn't entirely complete.  William Kimber did get a GB - in 1923, the same year as Sharp. Also:

Jinky Wells 1924
Arthur Marshall (melodeon player for traditional long sword teams in N Yorks) 1969
Johnson Ellwood (clog dancer from NE England) 1976
Stan Hugill 1977
Harry Pitts (Handsworth Sword dancers) 1995
3 other Coppers in 1998
Jackie Toaduff (N.E. clog dancer) 2011
George Peterson (Papa Stour fiddle player) 2011
Ricky Foster (High Spen Rapper) 2013


And now for something completely different!

Despite what it used to say in the Wikipedia entry, Edward the Second and the Red Hot Polkas did not start in 1987, and Let's Polkasteady: Edward the Second, Cooking Vinyl COOK 007 was not their first recording.  Far from it!  In fact the band first performed in public in 1980, in Cheltenham's Victory Club.  The members were Lizzy Howe-Pellant: melodeon, Dion Cochrane: tenor banjo, Johnny Gill, Floss Headford and Paul Burgess: fiddles, Martin Brinsford: sax, Dave Haines: 1-row melodeon and concertina, with Richard Valentine: piano and caller.  By 1983 the personnel had changed quite a bit and Danny and I - recently parted from The Old Swan Band - joined Dion, Dave and Johnny (now playing bass) as a smaller and relatively stable line-up.

We subsequently recorded three cassettes.  The first, from 1985, was called Demos ... sounds rather grand, but it was really only a demo tape to try to get ourselves some gigs.  This was followed the next year by Promos, again just a 5-track promo cassette.  The band's personnel had changed a bit by then.  Dion had left, replaced by Jon Moore: lead guitar, and we'd added two rhythm guitar players, Tom Greenhalgh (from the Mekons) and our son Barnaby - though they rarely played at the same time.  At the end of 1986 we recorded a further 6 tracks which, together with the 5 Promos ones were published as Ethos.  We mused, at the time, about calling our next cassette d'Artagnan - but the Cooking Vinyl record company came along with an LP offer, so that ended the series of pretentious record titles!

Last month, Dion Cochrane asked me for a copy of the Demos cassette, as his tape had broken and, having to record it in real time, it meant that I got the chance to listen to it for the first time in 30 years.  I was gratified to hear how good the band sounded - so I then played the other two cassettes as well - and continued to be happily surprised.  Remembering how well the Oak CDs have sold (over 340 copies!), I thought that at least some MT readers might enjoy listening to these early E II recordings as well.  So here's your chance!

The CD is one of our rare 400 series, so it comes in a regular jewel case without a booklet, although there are some Notes on the inside of the folded cover.  The track list is: Another Fine Mess;  Cliffe Hornpipe;  French Schottische;  Clee Hill;  79th Highlanders' Farewell;  Boatman's Dance;  Ashling / Shantey;  Johnny Mickey Barry's / Freedom of Ireland;  Bromsberrow Heath;  Redower Polka;  Kelly's Home Schottische;  Swiss Boy;  Mr Prime's;  Art Wooton's Quadrille;  Polka Volta;  Gloucestershire Hornpipe;  Queen's Jig;  Stack of Wheat;  Sophie Bourbon's Hornpipe;  Walls of Butlin's;  Swiss Boy;  BourĂ©e a Gaston Tommier.  The tracks are taken more-or-less alternately from Demos and Ethos - the ones with tenor banjo are from the former cassette.

Edward the Second and the Red Hot Polkas: The Early Recordings 1985-86 (MTCD405) has 22 tracks, plays for 81 minutes, and it costs just £10.00.  Not bad for "the best little English dance band on the planet" as someone called it back then.  It can be found on the MT Records' website.


You can find last year's Editorials, in reverse order, at the end of 'The more-or-less complete compilation of past Editorial pieces' next to this one the Home Page.


Rod Stradling, 1 Castle Street, Stroud, Glos GL5 2HP, UK
E-mail: rod@mustrad.org.uk
- or, if you don't mind the fact that he's getting a bit deaf ...
Phone: 01453 758519 or Mobile: 0793 099 1641

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